We then moved on to speeches. I was up first. I set out my concerns and why I thought this knee jerk response could have knock-on consequences. I have included my speech below for those who might be interested. I was then questioned by Labour and Lib Dem Councillors (Tory Cllrs were mute at this stage). I made the point that having analysed the last 32 OSC meetings, public questions were asked at only 8 of those meetings - so 75% of meetings are question free. I also made the point that the questions that were asked focused on three main topics, Friern Barnet Library, Pinkham Way waste site and the NSCSO contract, three issues which are both controversial and deeply unpopular and also which have been banned from discussion at residents forums. I suggested that residents could either be viewed as a resource, the 12th man on the OSC team, or as an adversary, the Council clearly viewing us as the latter. I suggested that if the council closes one channel for residents to ask questions they will simply find another channel. The unintended consequence of stopping residents asking questions at residents forums has stimulated more questions at OSC meetings. Stopping them at OSC meetings will simply mean they pop up at other meetings but with residents even more frustrated.
Julian Silverman then gave his speech and Daniel Hope, who had requested to speak, did not attend.
Cllr Richard Cornelius asked what all the fuss was as the scrutiny committees were going to be abolished in a year's time. Exactly Richard, why tamper with the constitution if things are going to change in 2014, just leave the rules as they are now.
It was apparent that the Council thought these amendments would simply be nodded through and as such Cllr Melvin Cohen had made arrangements to go off to another engagement. "Can we deal with these amendments in 10 minutes?" No, so the meeting was adjourned and another meeting will be held on 10 April to allow further consideration.
Barnet have consistently underestimated the value residents place on the ability to challenge and question the council and yet again last night they showed just how out of touch they are with public opinion. the Council need to think long and hard about the consequences if they introduce these amendments. I hope common sense prevails.
Speech to Constitution Committee
"The amendments proposed tonight will reduce democracy in Barnet. I will start with
amendments to article 3.
You have amended
3.01d from public participation to public engagement, a subtle shift which
appears to show the council’s true motives, a rejection of public participation.
The rest of the paragraph appears to contradict proposed changes you are making
elsewhere in the constitution. It states that:
Citizens
have the right to ask questions and make comments at committee meetings, make
representations at Residents’ Forums and contribute to investigations initiated
by Overview and Scrutiny Committees (such as Panels or Task and Finish Groups).
However, other amendment
you are seeking to introduce tonight will stop residents asking questions at
Overview & Scrutiny Committee
meetings and make it even more difficult to ask questions at residents forums.
At article 10,
residents forums, you are seeking to move the deadline for asking question back
from 6pm the day before the forum to 10am two working days before the forum.
Until two years ago, when you imposed restrictions of residents forums, residents
could ask questions on the evening. This was especially useful for 1 in 5 who
do not have access to the internet. You
have made no attempt to identify if the changes you made 2 years ago have been
successful yet you seek to impose even more restrictive practices without
consultation.
Moving onto article
6, clause 6.03 sets out the specific functions of overview and scrutiny
committees including the requirement “to consider and implement mechanisms to
encourage and enhance community participation in policy development”. Indeed,
Mr Craig Cooper’s statement at the Judicial Review last week said that one of
the roles of overview and scrutiny was “to amplify the voices and concerns of
the public”.
Yet as part of these
proposals you are seeking to stop members of the public asking questions on call
ins and pre decision scrutiny.
That’s not
amplifying the voices of the public that’s gagging the public. Many of the call
ins are delegated powers reports which will never be subjected to public questioning
without call ins. As for ruling out pre decision scrutiny questions that may be
a resident’s only opportunity. That is because clause 5.1 of the public participation rules specific excludes the public
asking questions “On any
matter which has been the subject of a decision of any committee in the
previous six months” and that rule was used to prevent me asking
question on a post decision scrutiny review in December 2010. On that occasion
it was only thanks to the common sense and discretion of Cllr Rayner who agreed
to suspend public participation rules that enabled me to ask my questions.
So there you have it. You want to stop us asking questions on pre
decisions and call ins and rules already prevent residents from asking
questions on post decisions so that means no public questions at scrutiny full
stop.
These latest proposals send one very clear signal and that is you want
to eliminate public participation in Barnet. Two years ago you ignored the
views of the public and pushed ahead with the draconian restrictions to the
residents forums. They are now in their death throes and you want to kill them
off permanently. With no outlet to question the council in residents forums
this led to more public questions at
Overview and Scrutiny. So your response is to kill off participation in those
meetings too. Perhaps that in turn will lead to far more FOI requests.
In summary these amendments seem to be an incredibly ill timed response considering
the events that took place in the Royal Courts of Justice last week. Legal
challenge increasingly looks like the only way residents can get their questions
answered in Barnet. Please think very carefully before agreeing to these
amendments as in time they may prove to be disruptive and a very costly error
of judgement."
I have written 10 April down John as the adjourned date and at 7pm because Cllr Melvin Cohen hasn't got anything more important to do that night than the duty of Chaiman for which he gets a handsome allowance. I have asked to speak for once.
ReplyDeleteThanks Derek, now amended.
Deleteand if we judge the ruling councillors by their answers - they are lacking!
ReplyDeleteWell said, as usual, Mr R. Why amend the constitution now? Because they want to stifle public challenge over the DRS contract, about to be awarded, we can predict with well, reasonable confidence, to Crapita Symonds.
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